One of the most interesting calendar coincidences in relation to the Mayan 2012 information, is the similarity between the start dates of the last long count cycle of the Mayan system and the Hindu’s Kali Yuga. Yuga’s are vast periods of time, epoch’s that relate to the Earths journey around a cosmological central sun. The four Yuga (Satya Yuga, Treta Yuga, Dvapara Yuga and Kali Yuga) together make up an entire world age between creation and destruction events, held to be around 4,320,000 years in total duration.
Most 21-12-2012 researchers are aware of the 3114BCE start date of the current long count cycle, less people are aware however that the Kali Yuga, a predicted era of moral decent and spiritual bleakness, began in the year 3102BCE. A startling similarity, a mere 12 years difference for systems on different sides of the planet. The Brahma Vaivarta Purana Sutra from ancient India depicts a period which has many of the failings visible in our modern society, such is the backdrop of the spiritual decline in the Kali Yuga.
It is however a mistake for people to seek a link between the Mayan 2012 end-date and the closing of the Kali Yuga. Though their starts may have links the ends do not (although some suggest this is an error). The Kali Yuga is set to continue on for a vast period of time, at least 432,000 years, well eclipsing the 5126 years of the Mayan Long Count. Scholars from philosophies such as Buddhism, and from religions such as Brahmanist Hinduism, often discuss ages as being many millions of years long, entire vast Kalpa of time are addressed.
There is an excellent Buddhist parable that depicts visually an era of time described as an Aeon, far more effectively than a string of numbers. A teacher monk explains that an eon can be likened to the great stone mountain Meru. Once every year a man passes the mountain and lightly brushed against it a strip of the finest silk. The mountain will be completely worn away by his action well before the aeon closes.
Its worth noting that the Buddhist philosophy does not tend to hold with the idea that a time of any great Universal significance will happen in our near future, every moment carries the same inherent problems and their solutions. The only significant events predicted or prophesised are the ending the vast epochs, or the extremely intermittent arising of new Buddha’s. There have been suggestions in relation to 2012, that the next Buddha will arise at this time in a rather Judeo-Christian end of days scenario. Unfortunately anyone educated in Buddhist lore will know that it is made clear that fully enlightened Buddha’s only arise millions of years apart. Buddhism is prophesised to completely disappear during the Kali Yuga, and that during that time it will be virtually impossible for seekers to find any opportunity for spiritual realisation at all by any system known now. Only when such utter darkness has shrouded the world will another being become fully realised wholly by their own efforts, without any guidance, and become the next Buddha, named Maitreya.
The most notable discussion on the Kali Yuga by Buddhist teachers actually refers to how lucky a being is to be born as a human in such a time. To quote the master wisdom teacher Pabongka Rimpoche, “Most important of all through this physical rebirth you are able to achieve the state of Vajradhara [unification of the illusory body and great bliss] within one short lifetime in this degenerate age; otherwise it would take thee countless great aeons to achieve. Thus this rebirth is worth more than one thousand billion precious jewels.”
21-12-2012 may close a cycle of time related to consciousness change within our species, after all the Mayans were highly focussed on biological and environmental cycles. It would make sense that they had tried to do the same with psychological and spiritual forces. This would be in accordance with the great Asiatic measures of Yuga and Kulpa, as they too relate to the evolution of human consciousness. This considerably shorter cycle of the Long Count would only relate to a significant change in thought process’s however, not to a sudden total self enlightenment of the human species in totality. Even if we take into account the entire Great Year of the Galactic Alignment (26,000 years max.) it is vastly less that the periods Asiatic teachers consider necessary for super-massive consciousness upgrades.
The talk of 2012 consciousness change is by needs somewhat vague, nobody knows for sure just what might happen. That said it is wise to perhaps disregard the position which suggests suddenly every person on Earth will automatically become fully enlightened spiritual beings, ready to embrace a world of spiritual concerns, peace and compassion. It is self evident that the last time a Great Year period ended we did not have this happen, nor in prior cycles. The fact is that we are still here and not fully self realised, so we know it does not tend to happen that way. Whether perhaps some certain persons were especially effected or did somehow ascend to a higher dimension remains possible, but as stated that’s not everyone on Earth.
If this cycle is important in regards to the evolution of consciousness then its more likely that the effect is far more subtle, either an evolutionary change in our neurological system, or perhaps a general refinement of the functioning of mental energies. The advantage given would perhaps make self realisation somewhat easier only because the tools, the technology of self development, gets upgraded. If you were a psychopath on 20-12-2012 it strikes me unlikely that even this cosmic-consciousness change will cause you to become a saint in under 24hrs.
In the start of the great thinker (oddball) Nietzsche’s book, ‘Thus Spake Zarathustra’, it is stated that ‘God is dead’. Actually this concept, if widely excepted, would make more of a change to our society then any evolutionary force imaginable to us. Currently the vast majority of the planet is operating under a system of belief that a Supreme being wrote or dictated a book of rules for them to live by, all open of course to a plethora of personal interpretation. Inclusive in these system are various promised punishments or rewards dependant on obedience to the set of rules given, the old carrot and the stick to move the donkey along routine.
This abhorrent position, as discussed here in an excellent related article, means that the vast majority of the planet is incapable of helping change the orientation of the species toward an optimum direction if it contradicts something in a book. In my own library here I have copies of many spiritual texts including those of the four major theistic traditions, Christianity, Islam, Judaism and Hindusim. I have also many other books, plenty of them are extremely wise and have much to offer. If however I simply picked one and said I would only act if my actions were guided by that book that would doubtless lead to great problems.
Taking guidance from each book is only helpful up to a point, its my own mind and spirit that must be constant and able for the task of self realisation and environmental improvements. If before I can act I must consult a book, clearly there is something wrong with me, I should be able to do the optimum action immediately with no conscious thought whilst functioning at my optimum ability. Compassion should become my very nature at every moment and guide every action.
The best thing that could happen on 2012 might just be that people would put down their various books for a moment and take a long hard searching look within themselves. Before we rush headlong into a new period of economic and religious wars, we should surely pause for deep reflection. There are many questions I would want each to ask themselves first.
Do we really want a world split into two halves, one mainly poor, downtrodden and subverted by religious fanatics, and the other wealthy but ruthlessly controlled by New World Order dictators?
Wouldn’t our children be thankful to us for not having allowed that to happen?
Would the creative force that makes up the very fibre of all existence, that is the material of our core spirits, need to write an instruction manual for life, like some cheaply paid Ikea furniture manufacturer?
Most of the worlds great spiritual teachers have made it clear that every human has the ability to better themselves and raise themselves to the level we might call ‘saintly’. Yet each is also unique and will requires different focus, efforts, and forms of assistance from others. The only absolute equality and connection between each person is the actual energy of consciousness on which they run and from which they draw their ‘self existence’. To discover how they should then best proceed they should not ask someone else or read a certain text, first they should just try to take a period of reflection and get to grips with whom they are and what issues they need to work on.
This process means that if they then go for help or read advisory material, they can then refine from it the part useful to them in particular rather than being treated to a ‘one size fits all’ solution. That structure may work for cheap T-Shirt manufacturers, but seems woefully inefficient for the enlightenment of an eternal spiritual being constructed of pure consciousness energy.
When we allow books to instruct us in doing something wrong, perhaps even evil, we cant blame the books. If I subjugate a women or take someone as a slave I know it is wrong without picking a book up of my shelf. I don’t need to find a psalm or Sutra to know that killing and stealing are grossly unfair and cruel. Even the mundane ups and downs of my day are filled with actions that I am aware of being either optimal or substandard. I find it naïve to believe that whilst a mob stones someone to death for blasphemy or, rapes someone because they are seen as a lower caste, that the individuals are not all aware that they are in fact in the wrong. If a God were to state otherwise then it would have to be a wicked and evil entity, one to be exorcised by the might of our compassion. Whilst humans cut each other to ribbons or apply mind numbingly cruel tortures to one another, they speak about there adherence to the rules of some divine, loving and compassionate God. To me this is greatly unsettling, when we begin to call quite evil actions ‘good’, then we are in real trouble.
If I could wish for anything to happen on the 21-12-2012 it would simply be that everyone one of us for a moment dropped any external guiding principles from our minds, both religious and social rules. Then just sat quietly and analysed what it means to be alive, a human, compassionate, and a seeker of happiness. Before picking up any of the old ways they could first bring themselves up to speed and better understand these basic guiding forces. We are all here together in this great web we call life, we are all in human form, each of us desires happiness and all would be happier if everyone was compassionate.
Having realised that situation we could then observe that even when no other is doing an action that would be causing us harm, we can still lack lasting happiness. Finally there would be no ability to avoid the obvious cause of our fluctuating emotional states, that its all within us, not somewhere ‘out there’. From that point on self-realisation and enlightenment are observable phenomena just on the horizon of our self existence, finally.
“One of the most curious things in the structure of our psyche is that we all want to be told because we are the result of the propaganda of ten thousand years. We want to have our thinking confirmed and corroborated by another, whereas to ask a question is to ask it of yourself. What I say has very little value. You will forget it the moment you shut this book, or you will remember and repeat certain phrases, or you will compare what you have read here with some other book – but you will not face your own life. And that is all that matters – your life, yourself, your pettiness, your shallowness, your brutality, your violence, your greed, your ambition, your daily agony
and endless sorrow – that is what you have to understand and nobody on earth or in heaven is going to save you from it but yourself.”
J KRISHNAMURTI
(Freedom from the Known - 121)
By Bruce Fenton












Bruce,
Some very thought provoking and well written ideas. I very much like the idea of ‘putting down the books’ for a day and honestly facing ourselves.
Thank you,
Jessica
www.waveeternalpath.com
— Jessica · Mar 16, 02:56 AM · #
Hello Bruce.
The 432000 years may be more of a metaphor. The base number 432 is part of a very ancient system of sacred numbers found around the world.
http://www.greatdreams.com/432.htm
http://www.greatdreams.com/gem1.htm
http://www.greatdreams.com/crop/lazarus/lazarus.htm
http://www.greatdreams.com/2012.htm
http://www.greatdreams.com/anger.htm
— Joseph E. Mason · Mar 21, 08:26 AM · #
Hi Bruce,
just one thing on your article on the Kali Yuga. Well, not really on the article but on the cute little picture of the Hindu Goddess Kaali that accompanies it.
I think you confuse the Kali Yuga, named after the demon called “Kali” with one of the most reverred of the Hindu Godesses “Kaali” (with the loooong “aa” sound as opposed to the short “a” sound of “Kali”), the wife of Lord Shiva in her Paarvati incarnation. She is referred to as the Kaali-mata (mata = mother) and might offend or perplex a hindu reader.
You’d better get rid of the confusion and the picture of the Goddess. It’s one of the demon “Kali” (available from multiple sources including the internet) that you want to put up with your article.
See ya!
Indrajit
— Indrajit · Apr 10, 02:51 AM · #
Indrajit…Lord Shiva must be really handsome because both the demon and his wife are sticking out their tongue at him.
— Belialith · Oct 6, 02:13 AM · #
Hi,
Actually, Kali Yuga is not named after anyone. Kali simply means “dark” or “black”. These are the Dark Ages.
Kali, the demon, is mentioned in a few of the puranas and causes lots of trouble in the Kalki Purana, detailing Vishnu’s final incarnation, but it’s not written anywhere (except Wikipedia) that Kali Yuga is named after him. I personally hope Kali, the goddess, kicks some serious ass in the Kali Yug, but it’s not named after her either.
This is a thoughtful site.
Thanks, Ni
— Ni · Oct 27, 08:00 AM · #
Hi Ni,
I am inclined to agree with you. I am aware that Kali is a Pali term for ‘black’ and am unsure where the link to the Goddess Kali crept in. If anything the clearest link is to Kalki who would supposedly incarnate at the end of the Kali Yuga.
Many thanks
— Bruce · Oct 27, 06:44 PM · #
I think the reason for some confusion, at least about Kalki, is the transliteration of Sanskrit into English. The “L” in Kali, as in the dark demon and the dark goddess and the dark age, is a different letter, and pronounced differently, from the “L” in Kalki and its root, the word “kala”“. Kalki is a shortened form of Kalaki, and kala, means a length of time. Hence, Kalki is taken to mean the destroyer of Time. (This is also a role many Hindu texts say Lord Shiva will play).
Hindu and Pre-Hindu Goddess worshippers all had predictions that in the final days the Mother Goddess, Durga, and/or her sometimes wrathful, black-skinned manifestation, Kali, would take her children back into herself, to digest and “recycle” them if they are beyond redemption, or to keep them safe in her womb for rebirth into the next cycle. The Bengalis, who are ardent Kali worshippers (hence the original name of Calcutta, Kalighat, or “place of Kali”) and who are some of our foremost writers and poets, especially hold this view. So that’s how Kali came into the mix.
Thanks, Ni
— Ni · Oct 30, 12:43 AM · #
Whatever is written here is good enough, but I beg to differ at one point. Kaliyug (Kalyug) is never named after Goddess Kali. It is named after Kalki the 10th avatar of Vishnu. I have read the Puranas, and they clearly mention that at the end of Kaliyug, Kalki Dev will appear on a horse and will destry the earth with famine and fire.
Nostradamus’s predictions also match this 2012 date. He never says although that the world will be destroyed but there will be wars and terror and ultimately someone from the Asian sub-continent will rule the world.
— in · Dec 6, 01:16 AM · #
I have been research to Ramayana that book is “Grace Of God” under proseces, and writing “Sri Rama Ramayana.
in the research proseces to link of mythilogical and Modern science. The science and Puranas to Changes to earth for yugas wise.
— Muthyala Ramakrishna Rao · Dec 6, 02:49 PM · #
Kali she is time,she is the divine energy of our body and manifest as the kundalini!She is the one that sustained our daily activity and at the same time she is the compassionate mother who will never abandon her children.
— Nikki802 · Feb 10, 07:54 PM · #
What are your thoughts on the 2012 as being a destructive cosmic event on a global level that many ancients predicted and prophesised. The Mayan’s predicted that a major cosmic event would occur, the alignment of the center of our galaxy, our sun and earth. If the center of our galaxy is a massive black hole, and massive black holes produce massive amounts of energy, aligning with our sun could produce a sort of wobble or heat blast to earth. Because of the thinning of our ozone if such a heat blast did occur it would cause our planet to heat up incredibly, which would explain the doomsday idea, and all the horrific scenes predicted about 21-12-2012. I was curious if there are any Buddhist texts that depict scenes such as the ones depicted in the Book of Revelations?
— Daniel Cde Baca · Mar 30, 05:38 PM · #
but the age of kaliyuga is 400000 yrs….then what is fact??
— Techworld-Innovating Technology · Apr 26, 02:51 AM · #
don’t worry i am here to save this world. this is my duty,i am god i know every thing what happening around you and me.i created this universe… i know the situation but i want team… now i am in work of taking my weapon sword. it is on the way…it must come…otherwise i have lot of options…believe me
— kali-ki · Apr 26, 05:15 AM · #
Daniel,
I don’t really understand your question, the ancients recorded the Yuga as being 432000 years long. That is a fact.
Techworld,
Nice to know you are handling the issues, I will sleep better tonight lol.
Thanks
Bruce
— Bruce · Apr 28, 10:34 PM · #
What a war we wage against ignorance ey Bruce. Bruce just wrote down some of the most spiritual writings that could nudge a persons ignorant mind and none of you seem to understand that. It’s proof of just how conditioned everyone really is. Try to understand what he said, put the fucken books down! Stop referencing everything as if it was your original thought. Oh, you might offend hindus with that picture, oh, what about the Black Hole, but the yuga’s should be this long, not that long. Pay attention to what’s at hand, YOU! How have you been treating people? What have you done that’s good to contribute to the world for a positive change? Did you give milk to the dying child, or did you put it in a bowl for rats? Who gives a shit about what your religios SYSTEM is! Nobody! Spend more time thinking about what you’ve done in this life that hurt people and how you could have done things in a more positive way and stop squabling about how one letter should have been a capital, or how a chakra should have had 10 petals, not 9. Honestly, who cares, HOW HAVE YOU BEEN TREATING PEOPLE?! KARMA!
— A Messenger · Sep 28, 07:29 AM · #
Beautifully stated message, Bruce, and great Krishnamurti quote at the end, too. Thank you!
— Friday · Oct 24, 01:24 PM · #
i am the one who can communicate with the aliens by spiritual power. i can save human lifes in 2012 by the help of aliens, i am the re-birth of lord vishnu.
— vinodprasad petwal · Dec 1, 02:54 PM · #
You say: “Unfortunately anyone educated in Buddhist lore will know that it is made clear that fully enlightened Buddha’s only arise millions of years apart.” Shakyamuni Buddha Gautama predicted Padmasambhava/Guru Rinpoche(700ad), and other well educated buddhist see Gyalwa Karpapa 17th, Mindrolling Trichen, Tenzin Gyatso, Sakya Trinzing as fully enlightened beings living today among us. Many people achieving the “Ja-Lu” body these days too. <3 Peace
— Dorje · Jan 18, 09:17 AM · #
Technically these are Arahant’s or Bodhisattva not Buddha, the difference is subtle I admit, but there is a difference. If there was no difference we would not bother to refer to Arahant’s or Bodhisattva in the ancient texts. Thank you for the comment though as it reminds people we do have more recent enlightened teachers.
— Bruce · Jan 19, 08:10 PM · #
There are too many zeros in traditional yuga-lengths.
The Kali Yuga is 4320 years in total, & we are rapidly approaching its end!
— sulyen · Mar 6, 10:57 PM · #
Last statement is the real truth we’ve to understand. Thanks for it
— nibaldo · Jun 6, 02:25 PM · #
There can be endless discussions n debates…but the answer shall not be revealed,for it aint time yet…for the answer to disclose itself…people do not understand one thing, live this life, as it happens…for already we are so divided,where we shouldve been one…reching for the truth requires to go beyond the mny layers of divisions we have created between us..such that they may never be consciously one again..this is kali yuga, and time will spiral innto itself till it vanishes, then there shall be the birth of new spiral of time…observe nature and urself..u wil find the answers…research on the golden ratio 1.6, the fractals n the universe, the spirals and fibonacci sequence, try to get the relationbetween everyhing…the pattern…there is a system bhind this madness…too many things to understand, if u want to prove it physically…or else just go deep into urself, detach from everything else, and u shall find it…whichevr way suits u, coz u wil find the answer only when ur supposed to…time will keep spinning at its own pace, creating, sustaining, destroying… big bang, life, big bang, bramha, vishnu, shiva…
— the trident · Jun 24, 12:11 AM · #
‘In’ doesn’t know what he is talking about. Kali is also a male demon who is wide awake in the Kali Yuga. See Srimad Bhagavatam or just google Kali (not the goddess obviously).
— William · Aug 5, 10:49 AM · #
Really…..pathetic to see the messages…. its Koliyuga….Koli is a tremendous negative power who is ruling the present world.Ma Kali is a image of God.The time of Koliyuga is about to end so far I have studied….it wld be anytime in near future by Shri Hari Kalki….according to my knowledge or study he is very much present now in this world and every person who believes in bad principal will be finished….according to my study after cleaning the world he will start Satya Yuga….the period of truth……only he/she will be allowed who not fallen in Koli’s trap….thank u…for more discussion…pls contact my email id :chinmoychatterjee@india.com or chinmoyout@yahoo.com….rgds…..Chinmoy Chatterjee
— Chinmoy Chatterjee · Sep 12, 08:05 PM · #
You have been mislead. Of the four major “religions” you mentioned, there is one with a characteristic that separates itself from the others. One of them is NOT based on works or obedience for reward. One says there is nothing we can do to earn our reward. It is a gift that is given….freely….without us “doing” something. Now, our natural response to this wonderful, life giving gift is obedience.
I’m being very vague here for the sake of the reader, but I think you can understand my point from what I have written. I think you should do more research and try and fully grasp the teachings of each group you mentioned before making it available to non-discerning readers.
Thank you for your time
— TruthSeeker32 · Oct 15, 03:34 AM · #
Thankfully for our sake Bruce is wrong. Read Sri Yukteswars “Holy Science”
A full cycle around source, Brahma, is 24,000 years! one ascending arc (12,000 years) and one descending arc (12,000 years).
We are currently in the ascending Dwapara Yuga (lasting 2,400 years) and we are currently in the Autumal Equinox also called the “Pices-Virgo Age.” I am not sure about the significance of 2012 but one thing is true is that we are ascending back to Brahma, and significant changes in the external and internal worlds are currently happening NOW, if you haven’t noticed. Bless the world! Brahma exists in your hearts..Cheers, RAM
— RAM · Oct 26, 12:49 AM · #
Hi Bruce a wonderful and simple journey towards mind opening and know thy self words that should open the blinkers of our myopic minds and vision and feel the universe within ourselves to begin the journey with, whereby the outer will be then easy to understand. It’s our mindset with various text fundamentals and dogmas written some thousands of years ago by a wise person and largely followed by weak and fearful ones, which then becomes a cult and keeps on growing on such thoughts, fears and above all reprisals if not followed both by human society and unknown super force that we call Gods in different names.This approach sinks man’s ability to think beyond the set and prescribed books that has been ingrained in us from the time a child is born until death. This truly weakens our ability to think beyond. I always felt that the birth and death are natural phenomenon and the void between them is the history made by men!
— Sam · Dec 23, 06:57 PM · #
sir, please half for new temple to start in kali .
— sankar · Dec 31, 09:08 AM · #
The age of the Kali Yuga is just 1200 years not 4,320,000. And we are currently living in Dwapara Yuga which is going to last for another 2088 years.
— jewel · Jan 2, 12:56 PM · #
Look The moast important thing is that it does not matter what is going to happen on the 21st December 2012 because what has to happen will happen and we will come to know about it only when the day occurs.But our duty as human beings is to make the Earth as pure as possible so that we can bring Satyug in Kaliyug.
— Vivek Roy · Jan 3, 07:55 PM · #
Hi Bruce,
I appreciate your efforts to publish the facts. But the word kali is not related to Kaali ( Goddess) . kali is called as evil. Hence pls change the photographs in the above article.
Regards ‘
Rajesh
— rajesh · Jan 22, 06:43 PM · #